What are the best upgrades for my pvp air staff? - Guild Wars Forums

thesecondrei · Jun 30, 2005, 04:44 AM // 04:44

I'm using an air staff on my ele/me for pvp, but I want to know what everyones opinions are on the best/most beneficial upgrades for the staff.

Tworld2224 · Jun 30, 2005, 04:48 AM // 04:48

I'll go with some of the obvious

+5 Insightful Head with +30 Fort
+30 Hale Head with +30 Fort

Lasareth · Jun 30, 2005, 05:24 AM // 05:24

Also an enchanting wrapping may be good for attunement spells (at max 20%, that's 9 seconds for elemental attunement and about 12 or so seconds for air attunement)

ICURADik · Jun 30, 2005, 05:33 AM // 05:33

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Originally Posted by Tworld2224

I'll go with some of the obvious

+5 Insightful Head with +30 Fort
+30 Hale Head with +30 Fort

I don't think +30 +30 is allowed. http://www.gwonline.net/page.php?p=125

Generally the best modifiers are armor. It all really depends on how defensive your build is. If you have protective spirit on you often then Insighhtful of "skill name" is the best, being that more armor will do nothing, and more hp will mean you will be taking more damage for you monk to heal.

I run a couple elementalist with a few Rangers for some minor spirit spam frequently so have Insightful of Warding is probably the most useful on an Elementalist in this situation.

thesecondrei · Jun 30, 2005, 06:28 AM // 06:28

IIRC, Half + fortitude staff wrapping adds up to 60 HP....

Keure · Jun 30, 2005, 08:30 AM // 08:30

According to Ensign, they do stack.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=26742

momo2oo2 · Jun 30, 2005, 08:40 AM // 08:40

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Originally Posted by thesecondrei

IIRC, Half + fortitude staff wrapping adds up to 60 HP....

Sorry, what does IIRC stands for? I've seen it many times. Thank you!

Keure · Jun 30, 2005, 08:58 AM // 08:58

If I Recall Correctly

Jijimuge · Jun 30, 2005, 09:14 AM // 09:14

IIRC = If I Remember Correctly

momo2oo2 · Jun 30, 2005, 10:21 AM // 10:21

Ok, thanks you 2! BTW, they finally stack or not? anyone checked it in-game?

MCS · Jun 30, 2005, 10:50 AM // 10:50

They stack, ensign is god.

Anyway I'd have to suggest using a 1 hand wep and an artifact :\.

Anything you can get with a staff you can get with an wep+artifact and more.

momo2oo2 · Jun 30, 2005, 10:56 AM // 10:56

Agree, I've never seen a staff that equals my wand+artifact combo. The staffs I've seen have always few (in quantity) and few (in diversity) modifiers.

shinseikaze · Jun 30, 2005, 10:58 AM // 10:58

i go with staff head +30 staff wrapping +30/20% Enchant longer

IceD'Bear · Jun 30, 2005, 11:27 AM // 11:27

Defensive staff of Defense, or Defensive staff of Enchanting if you use enchantments.
Defense beats +HP in the long run.

Ra Rai · Jun 30, 2005, 11:33 AM // 11:33

wands vs staves....

wands can have 2 modifiers and foci can also have 2 modifiers but you can't add anything to them yourself.

staves can have 2 modifiers + 2 additions (head & wrapping) of your choice.

therefore, the difference really comes down to this....

foci can give +12 energy, staves only +10
you can modify staves as you desire but wand/focus you're stuck with what you can find.

personally - i'm all for staves - collectors can give staves with maxed out base stats then you can choose your additions as you see fit.

oh and on the original topic - my choice for additional effects goes between +health and + energy. I'm favouring + health atm as i'm using inspiration magic to rob energy from my enemies

Keure · Jun 30, 2005, 11:52 AM // 11:52

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Originally Posted by IceD'Bear

Defensive staff of Defense, or Defensive staff of Enchanting if you use enchantments.
Defense beats +HP in the long run.

I'd just like to add additional comments about +defense vs +HP:

With +defense, you are making any healing spells cast on you more efficient (each hitpoint you get healed by stretches out farther if the attack you are hit by is affected by your AL).

However, +health upgrades will help you against stuff that isn't affected by armor (like mesmer/necro/smiter).

I Shadow · Jun 30, 2005, 12:11 PM // 12:11

i find the foci/wand combo pretty decent. atm im running around with a flame artifact that gives +6nrg base, +5 when health >50% and +5 when hexed and a wand that gives +10 nrg with -1 regen (thou the dmg it does sux) which gives my Mo/E 51 nrg under normal conditions and 56 when hexed, which can be a life saver

thesecondrei · Jun 30, 2005, 04:56 PM // 16:56

Hmm...What would be better, a collectors staff with a total of +60HP added (2 hp upgrades) or a collectors wand + collectors artifact?

salatious · Jun 30, 2005, 06:06 PM // 18:06

nothing can beat this.. no matter what mods you find on any wand or staff...

there is a collector that will give you a wand that is 11-22 damage with a 20% recharge rate... and there is a collector that will give you a artifact that will will give you a 20% recharge and a 20% casting speed. ..... having 40% recharge is godly on a elementalist becasue you can spam your attacks super fast...

I use these and have yet found any staffs or wand/artifact that can match this combo. I do however have a second slot weapon that has health increase on it just incase i need a quick boost in combat of 35 health or more that i switch too. but once you see what that above combo can do you will notice that it is the best in the game right now...

Now im not saying you cant find really nice staffs out there but nothing you will find will give you 40% recharge like this and you will see how fast your Chain lighting or Lighting orb will recharge in under 1 sec...

Arcadium · Jun 30, 2005, 06:52 PM // 18:52

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there is a collector that will give you a wand that is 11-22 damage with a 20% recharge rate... and there is a collector that will give you a artifact that will will give you a 20% recharge and a 20% casting speed. ..... having 40% recharge is godly on a elementalist becasue you can spam your attacks super fast...

What collectors do you get those from?

Jun 30, 2005, 04:44 AM // 04:44	#1
thesecondrei Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California Guild: Alliance of Xen [XoO] Profession: W/R	What are the best upgrades for my pvp air staff? I'm using an air staff on my ele/me for pvp, but I want to know what everyones opinions are on the best/most beneficial upgrades for the staff.

Jun 30, 2005, 04:48 AM // 04:48	#2
Tworld2224 Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North Carolina, US Guild: Age of Anarchy Profession: R/Me	I'll go with some of the obvious +5 Insightful Head with +30 Fort +30 Hale Head with +30 Fort

Jun 30, 2005, 05:24 AM // 05:24	#3
Lasareth Aquarius Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place	Also an enchanting wrapping may be good for attunement spells (at max 20%, that's 9 seconds for elemental attunement and about 12 or so seconds for air attunement)

Jun 30, 2005, 06:28 AM // 06:28	#5
thesecondrei Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California Guild: Alliance of Xen [XoO] Profession: W/R	IIRC, Half + fortitude staff wrapping adds up to 60 HP....

Jun 30, 2005, 08:30 AM // 08:30	#6
Keure Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005	According to Ensign, they do stack. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=26742

Jun 30, 2005, 08:58 AM // 08:58	#8
Keure Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005	If I Recall Correctly

Jun 30, 2005, 09:14 AM // 09:14	#9
Jijimuge Academy Page Join Date: May 2005	IIRC = If I Remember Correctly

Jun 30, 2005, 10:21 AM // 10:21	#10
momo2oo2 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Zaragoza, Spain Guild: [ODL] Profession: E/Mo	Ok, thanks you 2! BTW, they finally stack or not? anyone checked it in-game?

Jun 30, 2005, 10:50 AM // 10:50	#11
MCS Banned Join Date: May 2005	They stack, ensign is god. Anyway I'd have to suggest using a 1 hand wep and an artifact :\. Anything you can get with a staff you can get with an wep+artifact and more.

Jun 30, 2005, 10:56 AM // 10:56	#12
momo2oo2 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Zaragoza, Spain Guild: [ODL] Profession: E/Mo	Agree, I've never seen a staff that equals my wand+artifact combo. The staffs I've seen have always few (in quantity) and few (in diversity) modifiers.

Jun 30, 2005, 10:58 AM // 10:58	#13
shinseikaze Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dark Side Of The Force Profession: E/Mo	i go with staff head +30 staff wrapping +30/20% Enchant longer

Jun 30, 2005, 11:27 AM // 11:27	#14
IceD'Bear Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2005 Guild: Awoken Myth [MYTH] Profession: Mo/	Defensive staff of Defense, or Defensive staff of Enchanting if you use enchantments. Defense beats +HP in the long run.

Jun 30, 2005, 11:33 AM // 11:33	#15
Ra Rai Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2005	wands vs staves.... wands can have 2 modifiers and foci can also have 2 modifiers but you can't add anything to them yourself. staves can have 2 modifiers + 2 additions (head & wrapping) of your choice. therefore, the difference really comes down to this.... foci can give +12 energy, staves only +10 you can modify staves as you desire but wand/focus you're stuck with what you can find. personally - i'm all for staves - collectors can give staves with maxed out base stats then you can choose your additions as you see fit. oh and on the original topic - my choice for additional effects goes between +health and + energy. I'm favouring + health atm as i'm using inspiration magic to rob energy from my enemies

Jun 30, 2005, 12:11 PM // 12:11	#17
I Shadow Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Thrill Kill Kult Profession: W/N	i find the foci/wand combo pretty decent. atm im running around with a flame artifact that gives +6nrg base, +5 when health >50% and +5 when hexed and a wand that gives +10 nrg with -1 regen (thou the dmg it does sux) which gives my Mo/E 51 nrg under normal conditions and 56 when hexed, which can be a life saver

Jun 30, 2005, 04:56 PM // 16:56	#18
thesecondrei Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California Guild: Alliance of Xen [XoO] Profession: W/R	Hmm...What would be better, a collectors staff with a total of +60HP added (2 hp upgrades) or a collectors wand + collectors artifact?

Jun 30, 2005, 06:06 PM // 18:06	#19
salatious Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Richmond, Va Guild: Looking for a better Guild Profession: E/Mo	nothing can beat this.. no matter what mods you find on any wand or staff... there is a collector that will give you a wand that is 11-22 damage with a 20% recharge rate... and there is a collector that will give you a artifact that will will give you a 20% recharge and a 20% casting speed. ..... having 40% recharge is godly on a elementalist becasue you can spam your attacks super fast... I use these and have yet found any staffs or wand/artifact that can match this combo. I do however have a second slot weapon that has health increase on it just incase i need a quick boost in combat of 35 health or more that i switch too. but once you see what that above combo can do you will notice that it is the best in the game right now... Now im not saying you cant find really nice staffs out there but nothing you will find will give you 40% recharge like this and you will see how fast your Chain lighting or Lighting orb will recharge in under 1 sec...